Vietnam Aircraft

We had a family holiday over Xmas and the New Year in Vietnam; it seems prudent to avoid bogging up the family holiday diary/blog with all my aircraft photos, so I thought I’d separate them out.

I haven’t had time to do much in the way of photo manipulation, just thought I’d publish a draft while I have time to do so, as some people out there may find it useful.  It’s a great country for the aviation enthusiast (and everyone else), the museums are largely deserted and you could spend days in them, it’s really great value and the people delightful!

 

23 to 29 Dec-15 Phu Quoc

Phu Quoc island is a sort of Vietnamese version of Phuket in that it’s a holiday island.  It’s just off the coast of Cambodia, who doubtless lay claim to it, which may explain the rather large airport (it could be used by the Air Force….not that there’s any shelters here).

The terminal is enormous and new, about three times that of Southampton’s with a tenth of the movements.

I tried walking along the beach to be under the approach from the north but it’s not continuous sand so gave up.  The runway end is not exactly St Maarten close to the beach anyway.  However, if your thing is Vietnam Airlines A321/ATR-42, Vietjet and Jetstar A320s while having a very cheap massage, the beach is your place.

 

 

29-Dec-15 Hanoi

Landing at Hanoi towards the southwest on 25R meant that I was sitting on the wrong side of the aircraft for the taxi past the military area but tucked in the corner is a Tu-134 and behind it a DC-3.

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The Tu-134 is VN-A132 ex- of Vietnam Airlines and I assume the DC-3 is an AC-47D 43-49524 ex-Vietnam AF.  According to this trip report the Tu-134 has been stored for 16 years now; whether they still use it for tug towing practice I don’t know.

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Tu-134 and DC-3 (courtesy Google Earth)

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A few An-26s and an An-28 visible in the distance.

30-Dec-15 Ho Chi Minh City

A day of museum touring, all four places marked have aircraft.

Each museum has a F-5 representing the F-5E which Nguyễn Thanh Trung, real name Đinh Khắc Chung, was flying  when he bombed the Reunification Palace on 5-Apr-75 and three weeks later in an A-37, Tan Son Nhut airbase (Saigon airport).  He wanted to avenge the US bombing of Hanoi in 1972 and was encouraged by the Viet Cong to sign up for the South VN Air Force, which included training in the USA.Ho Chi Minh Campaign Museum.

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One of the most useful aspects of sightseeing in Vietnam is that every single shop – well, the physical, immovable shops – has its address written clearly on the frontage.  Road signs at intersections were present, but it just helps with map reading old-school style. Google Maps works just fine too and there are wifi networks everywhere.

 

Ho Chi Minh Campaign Museum

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To be honest I’m not entirely convinced that this says ‘Ho Chi Minh Campaign Museum’ but it was on the wall outside the compound.  If it says ‘zoo this way’ or is advertising a bar, please let me know.

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The inside of the museum is filled with strategic displays, probably of more interest to war gamers and dedicated historians.

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Outside are a few intact aircraft and a wreck or two.

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New Year decorations!

 

Ho Chi Minh City Museum

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UH-1H 541

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F-5A 71-0271

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A-37B 3724

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The captions say it all.  The museum goes way back in history; their take on the outside displays is here.

 

War Remnants Museum

 

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Douglas A-1H Skyraider 139674

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Cessna A-37B 70-1285

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F-5A 66-9170

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66-0086 CH-47A

It’s by far and away the most popular (aviation) museum in Vietnam and rightly seems to be on every tour group’s itinerary as it realistically describes the horrors of war.  On a trivial note, I don’t actually like the freshly painted schemes on the aircraft exhibits, although the CH-47 is authentically sun-bleached and worn.

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71-1448 Cessna U-17B

One has to contend with a lot of other humans in shot.  Or wait.  Too hot for that!

 

Reunification Palace

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In the grounds of the palace amongst the shade of some trees is this F-5.

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Not sure what the true ID is of this aircraft.

 

 

2-Jan-16 Ho Chi Minh City

Ho Chi Minh City

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Departing from Ho Chi Minh City on the Vietjet A320 to Hanoi.

For completeness, there are several inactive An-26s and ex-South Vietnamese C-130s stored at HCMC.  I didn’t get a chance to investigate these, nor photograph them.   Neither did I visit the museum that’s just outside the airport.

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3-Jan-16 Hanoi

Vietnam Military History Museum

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66-19082 CH-47A, history

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MiG-21 MF 5121

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Douglas A-1H Skyraider 134636

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F-5A 71-0266

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MiG-17 painted as 2047 (real one is in the Hanoi Air Force Museum)

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69-6353 A-37B painted as 43198

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MiG-21PF 4324

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4-Jan-16 Hanoi to Halong Bay

A tad indulgent, but a lot easier than the road transfer.  Or that’s what I told Katy.

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one of the three Cessna 208s of Hai Au Aviation

It’s much easier spotting from a Cessna 208 than I’d imagined.  It also helped that ATC sent us for a full length departure.

 

The runway gives a reasonable view at the Su-22s stationed on the far side of the airfield

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Cessna 208 VN-B469

 

10-Jan-16 Hanoi museums

A quick whizz to some of the relics.

B-52 museum

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The remains of a B-52D that was shot down are the feature exhibit of the B-52 museum.  This could be 56-0605 shot down 27-Dec-1972

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MiG-21bis 5236 marked as ‘5033’

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Huu Tiep Lake

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Huu Tiep Lake and the B-52.  Opinion would appear to be that this is a B-52D 56-0608 callsign ROSE01 shot down by a SAM on 18-Dec-1972.

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We didn’t go in, but I hope they don’t sell napalm cocktails etc…..

 

Vietnamese Air Force Museum

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153001 F-4B

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The US reports suggest that 153001 is a F-4H Phantom and it caught fire after firing its own Zuni rockets, rather than being shot down.  Crew ejected ok.

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Mi-4 wearing serial 5951D, possibly 159D but some databases have it as 151D.  Either way, the plaque suggests that it was Uncle Ho’s personal transport.

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MiG-21PFM 5020

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02103 AN-2

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Mi-6  7609

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Plaque describes that Mig-21PFM 5020 shot down an F-4E on 5/7/72 over Ha Bac at close range, flew through the wreckage, stalling the engine, before recovering.

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   Excerpt from Mig-21 Units of The Vietnam War available from Osprey Publications

 

 

 

 

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Newly moved to the position previously occupied by a L-29 (judging from new concrete and old signage) is Douglas A-1H Skyraider 132/139723

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MiG-21PFL 4326

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This would appear to be a Cessna U-17B wreck

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another view of A-1H 132

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MiG-21MF 5159 wearing serial of 5121

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TL-1 serial 01

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L-29  743

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HL-2  87-03

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J-5 (MiG-17F) 2047.  Nguyen Van Bay flew this plane when he damaged the destroyer USS Oklahoma City on April 19 1972.

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Mi-24A 7430

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F-6 (MiG-19)  6058

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Mig-21PFM 5020: this aircraft shot down two F-4s on 5-July-1972

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Cessna U-17B 764

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Zlin 226 101

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Ka-25BSh 7511

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J-5 2011, together with 2047 attacked the USS Higbee and USS Oklahoma City on 19-Apr-1972, the first attack on US ships since World War II.

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F-5A 7579

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A wide and varied display of parts of US aircraft shot down during the war.

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In a room on the lower floor of the exhibition building is this Mig-21 front end that defied identification